French Ambassador Laurent Bili on NATO without U.S: ‘I don’t see how NATO could survive the blow'

French ambassador to the United States Laurent Bili speaks with The Post’s associate editor David Ignatius about the course of Russia’s war in Ukraine two years on, France’s new bilateral security agreement with Ukraine and Germany, the death of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny and Ukraine’s bids to join the E.U. and NATO.

Conversation recorded on Tuesday, Feb. 20, 2024.